Trigger warning: This episode contains mentions of animals being used for pharmaceutical testing purposes, talk of animals being abused and animals dealing with issues of PTSD and the fallout that comes from surviving life in testing facilities.

We all know animal testing happens. But did you know that it doesn’t just happen on rats and mice? It happens on all sorts of animals, including dogs and cats. And when it comes to dogs, the breed of choice for testing, especially when it comes to toxicity testing for the pharmaceutical industry, is the beagle.

In this episode, Bill talks to Shannon Keith. She’s the founder and president of the international non-profit Beagle Freedom Project. Throughout her career advocating for animals, she has been a voice for all animals on the streets, behind closed doors, in the courtroom and in state capitols.